hello from sweden! stuck on pattern big time

[Bulan1]

Dear all

I baught the most beautiful pattern for a dolly dress from the 60`s. However I am totaly stuck, from the start. I have googled and tryed all kind of variations but I can not do this . I crochet a lot, and have done other dresses but this I do not understand. If anyone can help me I would be so happy!

 

Here is the start that I do not get.

Beg at left sholder,ch 7. Row 1 Dc in 7 ch from hook, ch 6 turn. Row 2 Dc in first dc , work dc, ch 3, dc in the 4;th ch of starting 7 (v st made). Ch 6 turn.

Row 3 Dc in first dc, dc, ch 3, dc in the nest ch-3 sp (vi stitch sp made) , v st in turning ch and first dc as a V st. Ch 6 turn. Row 4 Dc in the first dc /inc at beg of row), make V st in each ch-3 sp, V st in turning ch sp-4 v sts.

 

This make no sense. If anyone can make this easier, or if you need to see the complete pattern, or perhaps draw me a picture let me know, and I will send you my email adress. Yhank you in advande.

 

Maria

Maria Schillstrom/Sweden

[Bulan1]

I think you would love it if you got it, i have not dared to look at the rest ha ha!!

[magiccrochetfan]

 

 

 

row 1 is at the bottom, row 4 is at the top

 

does this look like it could be correct for making the shoulder fo the dress?  

[Bulan1]

great, i will add a bit of the pattern. I will see if I can do it now:)

[magiccrochetfan]

Back! I do not get it:(! What does it mean at the point"work DC'? Work DC in what? And how many.? Can I send you the pattern.

 

No, don't send me the pattern---see my previous post.   But anyway, I do not need the whole pattern to try to help with these rows.

 

Are you asking about row 2 where it says "work dc, ch 3, dc in the 4;th ch of starting 7 (v st made)."?  the dc, ch3, dc, make up a v stitch; you are to work a v stitch in the 4th chain of the starting 7 chain.  

 

Honestly I have to say that at least this part of the pattern is not very clearly written!  What I have noticed is that in recent years pattern-writiing has become more clear, at least that used in most magazines or books, or single patterns by professional designers. Since this pattern is from the 60s i guess we shouldn't expect it to be as clear and easy to use as contemporary patterns.  Personally my preference is for patterns that use diagrams of sttich symbols, or patterns that include very clear photos---I need to see in my head what I am making, in order to really enjoy crocheting (or knitting).  

[magiccrochetfan]

Hi! Oh tank you for the prompt reply! Yes I vän, how do I add a file now?

 

 

 

In the Town Hall section of the forum are guidelines, including how to post photos http://www.crochetville.com/community/forum/6-crochetville-community-policiesrules/   I might need to reread those too, as i am going to post a photo of what i made from rows 1-4 of the pattern 

 

You can also read the general rules there for posting and using the forum.  One rule is not to share complete patterns, because that violates the copyright of the pattern.  It is fine to post a portion of a pattern for help.  

[Bulan1]

Back! I do not get it:(! What does it mean at the point"work DC'? Work DC in what? And how many.? Can I send you the pattern.

[Bulan1]

Hello once More:) I will see If I can make it by your explanation. If I can not I will get back to you. I will happily send you the pattern

[Bulan1]

Hi! Oh tank you for the prompt reply! Yes I vän, how do I add a file now?

[magiccrochetfan]

well I got out my yarn and hook and tried it.  it does work up to a point.  that is, up to row 3 where it says v st in turning chain---that much works out.  but then it says and first dc as a v st---there is no first dc on that side, unless you are supposed to count the first 3 chains as a dc. does it say that at the beginning of the pattern?  also, the "dc in the nest ch-3 sp (vi stitch sp made)" is just making a single dc so I don't understand that.

 

Oh wait.....i think in row 3 the "v st in turning ch and first dc as a V st." means to do a dc into the chain space of the turning chain, then ch3, then do a dc into the middle ch of the turning chain....it is the mirror image of how the row started. the single dc in the middle of the row still looks out of place to me, that row is not symmetrical.  but if i do row 3 that way, row 4 does work.  it makes a triangle shape.  

[magiccrochetfan]

Hi Maria, welcome to the ville!

 

well, hmmmm, that does look a little confusing!  Could you give us a link to the place where you bought the pattern?  If there is a picture of it that would help figure it out.  

[Terri/LadySorce]

Howdy from Oklahoma

 

 Welcome to Crochetville

[Bulan1]

I have it so it is like the 8, however it is the part after, your picture two that you sent me the second time. After that to the first picture you sent me yestrday, there is where i do wrong.

[magiccrochetfan]

It's because the directions for row 3 have   left something out should be   

Row 3 Dc in first dc, dc ch 3 dc in the next ch-3 sp (v stitch sp made) , v st in turning ch sp ---- 3 v stitches counting turning ch and first dc as a V st.

 

 

I agree row 3 is lacking something......either way i did it, the piece looked "off".....guess i am expecting symmetry where perhaps none is supposed to be!  

[magiccrochetfan]

Hi all! I do not understand hos you do this! I am still stuck at the same place. Ch 7, DC in the 7 ch from hook. I got that but then? I try and try and try, look at the pictures and try again..... I can not belive that I can not get it

 

After you do the dc in 7th chain, place a marker in the top of the dc (if you don't have a regular crochet stitch marker, use a bobby pin or paperclip, or tie a small piece of yarn there).  now do the chain6, turn, and do a dc into the spot you marked.  it should look like the last photo i posted.  

[Bulan1]

Oh well, soon I have used about 40 m of yarn... Just kidding, bit I made something that looked about 20% correct. This is frustrating!

[Bulan1]

Dear sarisue, have you added thumbnails for the work you made

[Bulan1]

Hi all! I do not understand hos you do this! I am still stuck at the same place. Ch 7, DC in the 7 ch from hook. I got that but then? I try and try and try, look at the pictures and try again..... I can not belive that I can not get it

[sarisue]

Here's my version. I did it yesterday but couldn't get the picture untill now.

[silverbelle29]

Hello and

[sarisue]

It's because the directions for row 3 have   left something out should be   

Row 3 Dc in first dc, dc ch 3 dc in the next ch-3 sp (v stitch sp made) , v st in turning ch sp ---- 3 v stitches counting turning ch and first dc as a V st.

Oh wait.....i think in row 3 the "v st in turning ch and first dc as a V st." means to do a dc into the chain space of the turning chain, then ch3, then do a dc into the middle ch of the turning chain....it is the mirror image of how the row started. the single dc in the middle of the row still looks out of place to me, that row is not symmetrical.  but if i do row 3 that way, row 4 does work.  it makes a triangle shape.  

[magiccrochetfan]

well now that i look at the photo, i actually put the next part in the wrong spot....but the point is that you are making a triangle shape or almost a heart shape at this point.  

 

to do exactly what the pattern says,  mark the 4th chain of your initial chain7.  into that stitch, do dc/chain3/dc.  that is your second v stitch.  

[Bulan1]

Good morning, and thank you for the warm welcome and all the help I got I would also be interested to see if anyone else has an oppinion regarding this beautiful but "strange" pattern.

 

And also thank you Alacujan for the welcome:)

 

I will give this a try later today, and well I hope that I can do it

[magiccrochetfan]

yes, when you do the chain7, dc into first chain it does make a ring.  then when you chain6 and dc into the first dc it looks like an 8.  Sorry i took pics of that but did not get them posted 

 

 

 

 

You are very welcome for whatever help i may have been!  I have to admit I got intrigued by the pattern lines you posted as I could not figure them out and had to do them to see it---and at that i have several "versions" !

 

Will be interested to see if anyone else thinks this is right or has a different interpretation!  

[alacajun]

welcome

[Bulan1]

Yes, I hope so to! If I can not do it egen with your help, I will give it up:(, or perhaps try to draw it for myself using your pictures! I will keep u posted,!