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So, all of the panels you've made have been edged with chain-4 loops all around as the pattern said, right?

It's a little unclear since you've completely surrounded the panels with loops, then it says to attach in bottom of first panel - not very specific, is it?  I'd assume it's the bottom corner loop of the first panel, that you'll connect to the facing corner loop of the second panel.

What you are going to be doing is chaining and stitching in a zig-zag between the centers of the loops of the panels.  So start in the center of the bottom loop of the first panel, make a chain 'reaching toward' the bottom loop of the second panel, stitch, chain back to the first panel's second loop, stitch, chain back to the second panel's second loop, stitch...and so on.   The instructions are confusing because they don't tell you to proceed to the next loop each time

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4 hours ago, Granny Square said:

So, all of the panels you've made have been edged with chain-4 loops all around as the pattern said, right?

It's a little unclear since you've completely surrounded the panels with loops, then it says to attach in bottom of first panel - not very specific, is it?  I'd assume it's the bottom corner loop of the first panel, that you'll connect to the facing corner loop of the second panel.

What you are going to be doing is chaining and stitching in a zig-zag between the centers of the loops of the panels.  So start in the center of the bottom loop of the first panel, make a chain 'reaching toward' the bottom loop of the second panel, stitch, chain back to the first panel's second loop, stitch, chain back to the second panel's second loop, stitch...and so on.   The instructions are confusing because they don't tell you to proceed to the next loop each time

Here is a picture of the same blanket I crocheted in 2003. I am not sure what you mean "edged with chain-4 loops all around as the pattern said". After the 7th square of each panel I chained one and cut the yarn. Now, do I start the edging by putting a slip knot on the hook--is that what is meant in directions "with loop on hook, sl st in first row of afghan st at lower corner of panel,"?467384447_2003BabyAfghanBlanket.JPG.f4c3f5c68852eb2c13b6371cf327a892.JPG

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On page 2 of the instructions, it says to make a round of chain loops all around each panel - which I see on your photo.  That was what I was referring to in my first sentence--I assumed you had already done that, and that you were questioning the joining part on page 3 - my bad. 

Yes, your interpretation is correct, you need to put chain loops around all the panels first (before joining), and that's what it is describing on page 2 (there's at least 1 other way to join yarn, but what they described works fine; by habit I would have inserted the hook in the corner, pulled up a loop and then pulled the tail thru, but it  doesn't matter).  Connect the yarn at the corner as it says and make chain loops all around - skipping alternating 2 rows, then 1 row along the sides...which is another way of saying skipping 1.5 rows, as it describes the same thing later (oddly written pattern IMO)

Did that help?  Sorry If I confused you.

 

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The white loops are the ones that you'll be making into the panels, the red path I very crudely highlighted will be the joining zig zag chains on page 3.

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I never even noticed the Joining Panels instructions, thanks so much for pointing this out. And, I love, love, love your red highlight, much appreciated. My youngest of two brothers works with me via telephone when I am having hardware problems with my computer. I have a habit of reading and following one instruction at a time; he tells me to read ALL instructions before doing anything. My problem is by doing that I have forgotten what the earlier instructions were about. He is very patient, talking to me can be like talking to a wall (lol). Oh, my eldest of two brothers tells me the same, "read everything first".

Just curious, at the beginning of instructions...I didn't understand how to do this, so I just skipped it: "Note: Mark beginning of each panel for lower edge."

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Here is a image of my slip knot on crochet hook. I am not sure where "with loop on hook, sl st in first row of afghan st at lower corner of panel" I am supposed to insert needle and bring up loop?DSCF0269.JPG.f17352e13b9e93243a85ebe34fdd7165.JPG

13 hours ago, Granny Square said:

On page 2 of the instructions, it says to make a round of chain loops all around each panel - which I see on your photo.  That was what I was referring to in my first sentence--I assumed you had already done that, and that you were questioning the joining part on page 3 - my bad. 

Yes, your interpretation is correct, you need to put chain loops around all the panels first (before joining), and that's what it is describing on page 2 (there's at least 1 other way to join yarn, but what they described works fine; by habit I would have inserted the hook in the corner, pulled up a loop and then pulled the tail thru, but it  doesn't matter).  Connect the yarn at the corner as it says and make chain loops all around - skipping alternating 2 rows, then 1 row along the sides...which is another way of saying skipping 1.5 rows, as it describes the same thing later (oddly written pattern IMO)

Did that help?  Sorry If I confused you.

 

When I finished the last square of each panel I did a chain, pulled up a loop and then pulled the tail thru--is that what you mean?

 

 

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To answer your last question first - it wanted you to put a stitch marker in the very starting point of the bottom square of each panel, not the finishing-off-spot.  The starting spot of your first square will be the very bottom edge of the blanket, which is where you want to start the edging loops.  The chain row of the first square in other words.

Use your best judgement for that spot since you didn't mark it -- the point is to be consistent with 'that spot' in all the panels so everything lines up when you put them together.  It tells you to anchor the loops by skipping 2, then 1, then 2, then 1 and so on stitches - if you have to fudge and at the end of a panel modify your skipping pattern, no one but you will know (and you might not find the spot later, that happens with me a lot)- just do what you need to, to get the same number of loops on each side of each panel so the connections will line up. 

 

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This is the bottom of the first panel. Is the red arrow what you mean by the starting point of the bottom square of this panel? And when I insert the hook here should I already have a slip knot on my hook?

 

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I just edited my post because I was forgetting which ways the bars went in Tunisan Simple Stitch (vertical).  If you followed he pattern, it tells you to work this in strips, so if this is the bottom square, I suspect the tail is where you started.  But, the shell stitches (lacy part) look like they are made in the direction toward the 'bottom square'...so maybe the bottom is really the top?  (I may be looking at this w wrong) But it doesn't matter if you start the chain loops top to bottom or bottom to top.

The chain-4 loops need to be made along the long sides of the strip of squares, so for this strip you'd want to start where I put the green arrow and go all along to the end of the long line of connected squares on that side, and then starting where the yarn tail is, along that long side as well. 

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20 hours ago, Granny Square said:

I just edited my post because I was forgetting which ways the bars went in Tunisan Simple Stitch (vertical).  If you followed he pattern, it tells you to work this in strips, so if this is the bottom square, I suspect the tail is where you started.  But, the shell stitches (lacy part) look like they are made in the direction toward the 'bottom square'...so maybe the bottom is really the top?  (I may be looking at this w wrong) But it doesn't matter if you start the chain loops top to bottom or bottom to top.

The chain-4 loops need to be made along the long sides of the strip of squares, so for this strip you'd want to start where I put the green arrow and go all along to the end of the long line of connected squares on that side, and then starting where the yarn tail is, along that long side as well. 

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Granny, thanks. This is where I am at now (below image):

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Looks like the right starting place :yes 

Are you doing a SC into the sides?  It looks a little taller like a DC,  not a big deal to have bigger loops but just pointing it out...

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30 minutes ago, Granny Square said:

Looks like the right starting place :yes 

Are you doing a SC into the sides?  It looks a little taller like a DC,  not a big deal to have bigger loops but just pointing it out...

OMG, I think you're right! I will tear it out and go again...thank you!

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1 hour ago, Granny Square said:

Looks like the right starting place :yes 

Are you doing a SC into the sides?  It looks a little taller like a DC,  not a big deal to have bigger loops but just pointing it out...

All directions except the edging call for dc; I didn't even notice the edging called for sc. I even had to Google how to do a single crochet. Now I need to know where in insert my hook in the Lace Square. The directions say in every 1 1/2 row?

 

 

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So the lace is based on DC.  Usually if you were working a Solid border of a plain stitch across the edge of DC, you'd make 2 stitches: 1 into the side (post) of the DC, and 1 into the place where the top of one row and the bottom of the next meet, if that makes sense.  So the side of a DC has  2 'spots' to make a stitch in, I'll call them 'post' and 'meet' for short, and just mention the SCs since you know there are 4 chains between SCs.

Skip the next post and meet, make the first SC into the next post.  Skip the next meet and post, make the next SC into the next meet.  Repeat.  I think it told you how many chain loops you should have across the side of each square, right, so you can double check that it's coming out correctly?

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I am feeling dumber by the day. Here's a closeup of my Lace Square. I still can't figure out where to insert my hook...

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I just peered closer at the instructions of the lace square, and it's talking about skipping SCs at the edge, although there are also DCs at the edge.  

I think the important part is to have 10 loops (10 points of connection) across both the lace square and the afghan stitch square, as the pattern says, so all the sides match up when you get to the next connection step.  Do you have something you can use for a stitch marker - bobby pins, sewing (straight) pins, bent safety pins, even 10 short lengths of contrasting color yarn to 'eyeball' and temporarily mark 10 evenly spaced spots?

When I have to divide a measurement by odd numbers, I usually 'go metric' because it's SO much easier in cm/mm than eighths of an inch or whatever.  Do you have a ruler that's marked in metric?  Measure the lace edge in centimeters.  Now divide that by 10 (convenient that 10 is metric!).  Example, if the side is 24 centimeters, divided by 10 is 2.4 cm.  Mark the stitches closest to those 10 spots 2.4cm apart (or whatever you measured and calculated).   On the next lace square, it will be easier as you can copy the placement position from the first lace square.

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Wow, thanks so much. I am not sure about a ruler marked in metrics. If I don't have one, I will surely get one.

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Oh darn, sorry.  ... Alternately you can measure the lace side in inches and divide by 10,  work out the inches fraction and mark the distance on a piece of scrap paper and use the marked paper as a "1 unit measure" to put stitch markers into the lace.  Since it's into the nearest stitch, doesn't need to be NASA accurate.

 

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