Spider Lace or Pineapples

[strandjss]

I searched the forum first and did not see a topic concerning Spider Lace.  I recently came across a pineapple block (Japanese pattern) and it took me quite a while to find the pattern.  In the act of searching it occurred to me that there are some similarities in the construction and visual appeal of spider lace and crochet pineapple construction.  I was wondering about the relationship and history of these two patterns and was wondering if anyone was aware of any information on this topic.  Also I am interested to know if anyone else is interested in spider lace or the topic of these two forms of lace in general. 

 

The picture attached is the pattern I refer to.

 

 

Thank you,

 

Jackie

[Granny Square]

That's an interesting pattern!  I hadn't thought about spider lace & pineapples being similar, but I see what you mean.  You do see them a lot (together) in lace patterns, especially vintage ones.

[magiccrochetfan]

Yes,  Like Grannysquare said, I see the common design elements now....don't know that I had previously thought about it that way.  

It seems that spider/spiderweb is usually set up with a square or diamond "frame" of stitches.  Pineapple often has a curving frame which changes the look a lot.  

I usually like the diamond frame design, like the photo, more than the curving for some reason.

 

As far as the history, I am aware of 2 books on crochet history.  One by Annie Potter seems to me to have a lot of speculation.   http://www.amazon.com/Living-Mystery-International-History-Crochet/dp/1879409003/ref=pd_sim_b_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=04BFJ41J38XA9QP3SVB8

 

 One by Lis Paludan has more documentation.  I checked out both from my local library so you might see what your library has or can get via interlibrary loan.  http://www.amazon.com/Crochet-History-Technique-Lis-Paludan/dp/1883010098/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1430598793&sr=8-1&keywords=lis+paludan

 

Oh wait, there is another one which i actually own ...haha...gotta get up from the computer and look at my bookshelf once in a while!  http://www.amazon.com/Heritage-Crochet-Analysis-Mary-Konior/dp/0852196423/ref=sr_1_7?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1430599089&sr=1-7&keywords=mary+konior

I will look and see if it says anything about the evolution of the designs.  

[Jsilvers]

All three of the books mentioned have valuable information.   They occupy honored places on my bookshelf.   Here is a link to a fourth publication, which analyzes selectet patterns in detail:

 

http://nhswinc.com/AntCro0.html